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Offline DD1975 Topic starter
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Airships making a comeback as cargo haulers?

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26372277

Cardington has a long history of association with airships:

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Amazing report with sound! Many thanks DD  thumbsup

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Offline Freddy
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Interesting report, this was on my local news the other day.
Posted March 04, 2014, 19:42:36 PM Logged

Offline DD1975 Topic starter
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I find this genuinely interesting, airships are far more environmentally friendly than cargo jet aircraft but only if they can be made commercially viable.......
Posted March 05, 2014, 13:12:39 PM Logged
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Offline DD1975 Topic starter
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I just found this which I think follows on nicely from the original post  Smiley

http://gizmodo.com/the-aluminum-airship-of-the-future-has-finally-flown-1301320903

And video on this one:

http://rt.com/news/aeroscraft-revolutionary-airship-cargo-187/
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may it not go kaboom  Tongue
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Um... Don? Helium doesn't "go kaboom". Tongue
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Offline Snowcrash
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Problem is, we're running out of helium. Hydrogen is much cheaper.
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Offline DD1975 Topic starter
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A small reminder as to why we stopped using Hydrogen  Tongue

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Offline Snowcrash
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Safety is better these days, what with self sealing fuel tanks better monitoring etc.

Given that we are approaching a helium shortage and hydrogen has 4 x the lifting power I feel it should be considered.
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Problem is, we're running out of helium. Hydrogen is much cheaper.


We could fix that easily, you know. put the population of the planet underground, trigger an ELE-sized solar flare to hit the Earth head-on, then harvest all of the new, fresh Helium that gets embedded in the surface rocks. Of course, there won't be much in the way of atmosphere at that point, so we'd also have to hand out 7.2Bn environmental suits (probably less, though, since I doubt everyone could survive underground for the length of time required, but that just means more food for everyone else). Tongue Cheesy
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Offline Snowcrash
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He3 (lighter than He4) can be mined from Jupiter and possibly Saturn, I do believe. Though the round trip may make it a little expensive.

On a reality check note. A modest sized air ship cost upwards of £100,000 to fill with He. Big ones would be in the millions.

Found this site as a cost/weight comparison.
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Um... Don? Helium doesn't "go kaboom". Tongue
it could if it got hit by one of these  Tongue http://www.army-technology.com/projects/surface-launched/images/slamraam_5.jpg
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Did Data post this in the wrong thread  scratch-head

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