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Germany to bring 100 mothballed tanks back

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This is odd and slightly worrying, the tanks even have the old German Cross on them  Shocked

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Germany plans to bring 100 mothballed tanks back into service in what is widely seen as a response to rising tensions with Russia over Ukraine.

Can't we just live in peace and get on with our lives  confused

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32257543
Posted April 13, 2015, 11:28:57 AM Logged

Offline DD1975
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Sadly Data it's never that simple.

To put that article in context these are the numbers of Russian vehicles facing us across the border (first number is currently active, second number is held in reserve)


Type

Main battle tanks 2,562 ~12,500
Infantry fighting vehicles 3,229 ~16,500
Armoured personnel carriers 2,876 ~ 5,000]
Towed artillery 1,781 
Self-propelled artillery 2,606
Rocket artillery 1,352 
SAM systems 1,531
Posted April 21, 2015, 21:30:46 PM Logged
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Offline 8pla.net
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Moth balled tanks have a history.  Can anyone identify the tank in the BBC news story?

Reference:

http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/modern/Germany/PanzerHaubitze_2000.php
Posted April 23, 2015, 01:52:20 AM Logged
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Is the clue in the question  Cheesy

Are they Panzerhaubitze 2000 tanks ?
Posted April 23, 2015, 11:30:25 AM Logged

Offline 8pla.net
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Oh, found a clue!

The image caption says, "A German Leopard 2 tank taking part in exercises in October ".

Posted April 24, 2015, 02:09:20 AM Logged
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Offline DD1975
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The Leopard 2 is considered one of the worlds finest main battle tanks
Posted April 24, 2015, 18:17:27 PM Logged
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Offline Freddy
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Those Russian tank and assorted vehicle numbers do raise the eye brows. Slight paranoia there or just always prepared...? Hmm.
Posted April 24, 2015, 21:31:24 PM Logged

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The world seems more scary than it should be for the 21st century. 

Have we not learnt from the last 2 world wars  confused

Hopefully peace and sanity will win this time  woot 
Posted April 25, 2015, 00:02:02 AM Logged

Offline 8pla.net
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Hasn't the 21st century, so far, largely been an economic decline?

U.S. History tells us, America did not get out of the Great Depression until it entered World War II.

( Just making an observation. )
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Actually, it wasn't just WWII. The same thing could be said (though to a lesser degree) for WWI,  the Korean war, Vietnam, and even the Civil war (though the start of that war saw a serious economic decline in the beginning. That said, however, the US was stronger at the end of the war than before it began, so the point is still valid)
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Maybe, with social media and people power ...

There must be a better way.
Posted April 26, 2015, 21:33:13 PM Logged

Offline sybershot
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a little off topic but been thinking, bringing those tanks back is a waste of money. I really don't think there will be another big war. power and control was main reasons for big wars in the past and now a days power and control can be bought  Tongue what are your thoughts on this.
Posted April 27, 2015, 01:24:05 AM Logged

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You're probably right, but that's not a good thing, as war is a good way to consolidate power, as well.
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Offline sybershot
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 scratch-head indeed true my friend, and a good point to be noted. But think about this money and goods can also be very persuasive consolidator as well.
Posted April 27, 2015, 01:36:49 AM Logged
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