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Offline DD1975 Topic starter
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This chap from Cornwall reckons he has solved the issue of perpetual motion.....and made a pretty nifty vehicle too  Cool

http://cars.uk.msn.com/news/in-pictures-msv-explorer-amphibious-vehicle-promises-perpetual-motion
Posted December 16, 2012, 23:30:26 PM Logged
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Offline Data
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I thought perpetual motion was a pipe dream, at least that's what we are told, you can't get something for nothing.

Reading through the 14 pages it seems that modern technology is about to turn that theory on its head, I wonder can it be true, we all want it to be but really can it?

It seems it could be:
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the gyro gen produces 1,600 amps, far more than the 400 amps required to drive a pair of motors.

There isn't much information on the actual technology behind it.

I will hold fire on reserving judgment just yet and wish them the best of luck.

Excellent find DD  thumbsup
Posted December 17, 2012, 11:22:13 AM Logged

Offline Diesel
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Brilliant find DD. Shame there isn't more detail available about the Technology involved, would make for a very interesting read.
Posted December 17, 2012, 13:34:36 PM Logged
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Offline DaveMorton
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You know, the statement that he spent "thirty-five thousand hours of science" sounds impressive, till you do the math. That's just shy of 4 years, so not really all that long, considering all of the other "perpetual motion", "free energy" (which amounts to nearly the same thing), or other (I want to say "crackpot" here) projects of this nature that have been researched and worked on for far longer periods.

And what's with the fashion disaster? Does it HAVE to look like someone played "mad doctor" with a lemon and a UFO? I mean, yellow is a nice enough colour, but it looks like E.T. is trying to mate with a Smart Car! rofl
Posted December 17, 2012, 13:56:39 PM
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Offline Freddy
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One of my favourite quotes of Leonardo is this :

"Oh, ye seekers after perpetual motion, how many vain chimeras have you pursued? Go and take your place with the alchemists."

Alchemists who of course wanted to turn lead into gold. Maybe he will be proved wrong though.

I have for a while now thought this could equally be applied to AI...
Posted December 17, 2012, 14:20:01 PM Logged

Offline DaveMorton
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Well, with regard to AI, we'll never see it until we can get at least 2 people to agree on what "intelligence" actually is. Tongue
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Offline Freddy
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I think we all know what intelligence is, it's just a difficult thing to sum up in words.  Semantics and all that.
Posted December 17, 2012, 14:25:43 PM Logged

Offline Diesel
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Itelligence ?, Hmmm. Is that when someone does something in good faith and another person takes offence.  scratch-head
Posted December 17, 2012, 14:28:55 PM Logged
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Offline DaveMorton
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No, that's just "conversation", these days, diesel. Smiley
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Offline DaveMorton
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To me, "intelligence" is being able to open a can of soup without a can opener. AND without destroying the can, or making a mess. Tongue Well, without TOO much of a mess, at least.
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Offline DD1975 Topic starter
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Wow, this one stirred up a nice bit of debate didn't it  thumbsup

I thought the vehicle looks pretty nifty myself....although I agree the colour could be improved  Huh?

I look forard to seeing where this could lead, has he really solved the issue or is this nothing more than an elaborate marketing ploy to bring his company to the attention of those with enough money to buy his vehicles..........
Posted December 17, 2012, 16:40:52 PM Logged
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Offline Data
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or is this nothing more than an elaborate marketing ploy to bring his company to the attention of those with enough money to buy his vehicles..........

Now you mention it, it does put more doubt in my mind.

Snowy will put us straight  Smiley
Posted December 17, 2012, 18:37:32 PM Logged

Offline DD1975 Topic starter
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I suspect we won't find out until the "boffins" get their hands on his invention
Posted December 17, 2012, 19:53:57 PM Logged
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Offline Snowcrash
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Surely a submarine should be yellow.

And as for perpetual motion. 2lot, it's the law. (2nd law of thrmodynamics, the reason perpetual motion can't work)
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Yeah, the "conservation of energy" bit, where it says that neither matter, nor energy, can be either created or destroyed. They just "swap places", as it were. Smiley

No, wait. That's the first law, isn't it? The second is all about "everything is doomed to die", or some such. Ok, well "Entropy tends to advance, and in a closed system, can never decrease" would be a more "academic" (I say stuffy) way to put it. Smiley
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