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Offline Freddy Topic starter
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Posted June 26, 2013, 19:14:58 PM Logged

Offline Snowcrash
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Price is ok, nothing special. They cost £505.78 from eBuyer. Mem, proc, mobo.

If the ivy bridge generation is anything to go by then you'd be better off (££ wise) with an i5. For £110 (from £72) you can double the RAM

You thinking of upgrading then?
Posted June 26, 2013, 19:29:17 PM Logged
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Posted June 26, 2013, 19:31:36 PM Logged
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Cheaper but I guess not faster.. ?

I was toying with the idea of upgrading yes.  I cannot decide whether to start again with a modern mb or to get a hires monitor, which would also entail buying a better graphics card.

So yes, just window shopping atm.
Posted June 26, 2013, 19:33:48 PM Logged

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Depends what you mean by faster. From a gaming point of view, identical. Maybe the next gen of games will use the i7 but the current games don't.
From a pure MIPS and FLOPS point of view i5 is slower.
If you do a lot of transcoding raw mp2 video into mp4 then the i7 is what you want.
Posted June 26, 2013, 20:06:58 PM Logged
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I'm a believer in spending less and up-grading more often so i5 for me, easily fast enough for gaming and nothing else I do requires a faster CPU.

A fast PC these days is one with a good SSD or 2 in RAID  Tongue


Up to you mate.  Smiley
Posted June 26, 2013, 20:34:29 PM Logged

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To add:

I'm not well up on the new Haswell chips, a little bit of digging around seems to put them at about 15% quicker than Ivey Bridge. Not amazing but not bad either.

I wonder if they make an i5P version without the graphics onboard, that would be a lower power consumption rig and a good bang for bucks all-round.
Posted June 26, 2013, 21:15:10 PM Logged

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here is a recent 1/4 decent video, explaining ivy bridge vs haswell 



Freddy note: I have the ivy bridge 3770k and I was playing wow the other day (it was 98Deg outside, pretty hot day) spanned across my 3 monitors. I had everything and I mean everything maxed out within the game settings. it really pushed my cpu it appeared and my cpu fan was screaming at 80 - 90% full speed. it did ~not~ come close to overheating the cpu, but man the fan noise is a ear killer.

Data got any tool suggestion to get some cpu and gpu usage specs while in game, to get some data to post here? I think it might help Freddy in his decision making.








Posted June 27, 2013, 04:52:58 AM Logged

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I use ATI tray tool to monitor the CPU heat and usage in game and so far my CPU hasn't even got hot, its maximum temp I have ever seen it go to is about 55C and at that temp the fan hardly spins, most of the time the CPU temp is in the 40's.

Part of the heat problem is the onboatd graphics which sits there doing nothing, taking power and making heat for no reason, if you have a good graphics card.

My i5p is running AC3 (the most CPU intense game I have so far) 100% maxxed out at 1920 x 1080 as smooth as an androids bottom.  lol  (really)

And one last thing, the K CPU's are for overclocking, I don't think Freddy will be doing that.
Posted June 27, 2013, 12:06:50 PM Logged

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Thanks guys, I will try and soak some of this up.  I might just get a monitor and a HD 7970 or maybe a HD 7950 - I need to do some reading.  Or I may just sit tight for a few more months.

Edit: actually I may not need to get an uber card just yet.  Seems that people are playing LOTRO maxed out on lesser cards than the one I have at 2560x1440.  And I could run lower resolution on intense games if I wanted to wait to upgrade.

Hmm November time for Watchdogs according to the rumours hmmm
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Freddy have you found the limit of your PC on one of your games or something?

Like I did in AC3
Posted June 27, 2013, 15:48:39 PM Logged

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Funny, I was just rereading your GPU vs CPU thread again and remembered about that.

No I haven't run into problems, but I would really like to get the big display.  Rather than the 3 screen set up - I would have an excellent main display at 2560x1440 and then use one of these I have now as my alternative screen for when I am programming and things.

So my worry is if my current rig is going to be able to drive that bigger monitor at the high to max settings of new games. I don't think LOTRO, Guild Wars and Secret World are going to be a problem with my 6870, but I reckon I might be pushing it for things like Watchdogs.

I forget, but I thought we had already found that LOTRO would run fine on 3 screens and that's more pixels...so I would have thought the one screen would be fine as it is less pixels overall.

Dunno, I am grasping around a bit at the moment to be honest.
Posted June 27, 2013, 15:57:32 PM Logged

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Well I honestly recon your graphics card is ahead of your CPU in the CPU V's GPU comparison. It does come down to the game engine but on balance your CPU will be your bottle-neck.

So, if you were to double the power of your CPU you would see an improvement in frame rate by a considerable amount, this is what I noticed when I went i5p for £230 all in  Cool  

If AC3 is anything to go by, it was the latest Ubisoft engine at its time and Watchdogs is Ubisoft then its going to need a modern CPU to play at an acceptable frame rate.
Posted June 27, 2013, 16:10:00 PM Logged

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Do you think the build you made is still a good option then at the moment ?  Under £250 to do the job sounds good to me.

Is this what I should be looking at ?

http://www.ebuyer.com/393559-intel-core-i5-3350p-3-10ghz-skt1155-6mb-cache-boxed-bx80637153350p?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products&gclid=CNm1wYvEhLgCFTMgtAodxRkAfQ
Posted June 27, 2013, 16:18:00 PM Logged

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Yeah that's the CPU

There is a buddle offer on the page with a mobo, it's the wrong mobo for the job, you want a Z77 chipset mobo.  thumbsup
Posted June 27, 2013, 16:50:21 PM Logged
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