AMD Zen PC Hardware

  I think we are talking about different things, I am speaking about a prebuilt computer, where the manufacturer put in there own stripped motherboard, low wattage power supply, ect.  I guess you could put in a new motherboard and pwr supply , maybe a graphics card and of course the M.2, all this for a Skylake, but I'm sure it cost a bit more when new.
Carl2

 I'd already answered this but that's not here so I saw the link but it didn't work then, checking the links again show Micro has cut some prices which are not cut at Newegg, the numbers seem to be off and you don't save as much money as stated, I also noted they sell z170 motherboards for the
Kaby which should have the z270.
Carl2

 You tube has quite a few builds on both the AMD and Intel cpu's if anyone is interested. 
Carl2

  It seems I have already been to You Tube on CPU's, seems it didn't make enough of an impression more than likely it probably just confused me.  Right now I'll stay with Intel until AMD proves themselves,
Carl2

Very nice for that yes Dave - although I tend to do my renders solely on GPU now, at least in Daz, as with Iray it is a great deal faster. The two combined might be cool though.

I almost replied to this earlier and was going to say that there is that idea that things double in price every ten years - I don't know if this is true for tech though.

My first PC plus some other stuff was about £1000, so now (if you follow that rule) I would be looking at £4000 ish.

I spent about £500 two years back on my MB + 6 Core.

  There are lots of vids to look at, watched quite a few not that much info making that much sense to me, too much info.  like looking at the water with to many large waves, best to let the water settle down and maybe it will make sense.  Is Intel scared, god who thought of that one.
Carl2

A bit late for me since I've invested in Coffee lake and I'm very happy with it.  Nice to see Intel is using the Vega Radeon Video in it's latest version of chips, its a bit unfortunate that the latest processors use only 4 cores rather than staying with six.  It seems performance and economics are still the main factors used for decisions.
Carl2

  I got some e mail from Toms Hardware on the Ryzen 8 cores and 16 threads at a reasonable price, high boost clocks above 4.1 Ghz.  New chipset for the mother boards for these Cpu's.
Carl2